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All One Story? - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Super #17 Arc Part 5
A story arc finished in five parts? What a blast from the past! Yes, it's time to wrap up Super #17 already with a fight sequence that makes Goku look really, really dumb. It's rather par for the course here. But what about Super #17's context in the grander GT story? Should this even be considered a standalone story, or does it belong as part of The Evil Dragon Arc? Let's explore!
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Sailor Moon's Absolutely Depressing Ending
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Our celebration of live-action Sailor Moon continues, but it can't be all celebration. Today it's time to explore those few aspects of the series that just don't measure up. And unfortunately, that includes the finale. Will I finally be broken? Is my love conditional? Help support the channel: www.patreon.com/MistareFusion
Kuririn the Plot Device - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Super #17 Arc Part 4
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Dragon Ball Dissection returns with a little less histrionic ranting but no less confusion about the nonsensical plot. #18, the character with the closest personal connection to the villain, gets but a token appearance. Piccolo has to make a noble sacrifice... again... even though he doesn't have to... again. But, hey, there are some absolutely awesome lines! The bar is a low, but at least I fo...
Solving the Sailor Venus Problem
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The 20th anniversary celebration of live-action Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon continues! This time we dig deep into the original Sailor Senshi, Sailor Venus. She's a character I've always felt gets the short end of the stick. I'm guessing the writers of PGSM agreed with me, as they completely revamp the character. What is Minako's new journey, and why do I love it so incredibly much? Help support...
Attack of the Member Berries - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Super #17 Arc Part 3
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Remember Freeza and Cell? Remember when you were a child? Remember when you were happy? Me neither. This is hot garbage. It's hot garbage strung together by logic so flimsy it makes Tullece seem as credible as #16. What does that mean? I don't know! I've lost my mind! Help support the member berries: www.patreon.com/MistareFusion
Live-Action Sailor Moon's Complex Characters
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My celebration of PGSM's 20th anniversary continues! Today we look at how the series handles some of Sailor Moon's friends: Sailors Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, and... Luna? Say farewell to episodic conflicts resolved in 20 minutes. These girls have twists and turns, ups and downs. They have, what do you call it, arcs! From neuroses to unexpected transformations to shocking turns at villainy, this s...
A Match Made in Hell - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Super #17 Arc Part 2
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After a brief tournament interlude, Dragon Ball Dissection digs into the storyline proper of Super #17. It's, uh, it sure is a thing that happened. Ever wondered how building a copy of #17 can link Earth and Hell? Well, so do I! Help support the channel: www.patreon.com/MistareFusion
Why You'll ALSO Love Live-Action Sailor Moon (The Character!)
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It's another look at the live-action Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon! This time it's an in-depth exploration of the series heroine, Tsukino Usagi. What makes her stand out from her other incarnations? What makes her my absolute favorite version of this character? How do they make Tuxedo Mask a more interesting character? And what in the world is a Kuroki Mio? All of these questions and many, many m...
A Hero's Clone - Dragon Ball Dissection: Goku's Side Story! Siu Xing Qiu is a Testament to Courage
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It's time for the GT special! No, it's not the GT movie. There is no GT movie. But there is this. Set well into the future, Goku Jr. is a wuss who embarrasses his grandmother, Pan. But it's okay because all it takes is one coming-of-age journey to turn him into a Super Saiyan. Conform! Conform to your family's legacy! Help support the channel: www.patreon.com/MistareFusion
Why You'll Love Live-Action Sailor Moon
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What happens when you put Power Rangers, Twin Peaks, Batman Returns, and The Monkees into a blender? Why, it's the 2003-2004 live-action Sailor Moon series! Hidden away in Japan, the series has flown under the radar. As such, it's easy to miss the inescapable truth: that it's the best version of Sailor Moon that's ever been made. Now that we've reached its 20th anniversary, it's time to celebra...
Tournament of Filler? - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Super #17 Arc Part 1
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The Earth is back, Planet Tsufru is conveniently not mentioned, and everyone is at peace. That means it's time for a tournament! It's a standalone episode in a serialized series, but does that automatically mean it's not important? Is this filler in a series without filler? Let's find out! Please help support the channel: www.patreon.com/MistareFusion
The Everything Goes Wrong Q&A Special!
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Shaking off the beginning of the year doldrums is no easy task. Thankfully I have all of these great questions from my patrons to ease me back into work! Unfortunately, in true MistakeFusion fashion, absolutely everything goes wrong. Unlike other videos, where I meticulously try to edit out every mistake, you now get to see it all. Misery loves company! Help support the channel: www.patreon.com...
Then Piccolo Randomly Dies - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 19
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Dragon Ball Dissection December concludes, as does our look at GT's first story arc. The heroes actually act heroically for once, combining all their powers and resources to save every living being on Earth before it explodes. But that's not very dramatic, so Piccolo, a character who's only been in two episodes, has to die... somehow, for some reason. Even for the story arc that has everything,...
Somehow for Some Reason - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 18
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Merry Christmas! Dragon Ball Dissection December concludes its look at the fight with Baby. It can be an emotionally-satisfying payoff, but... Oob never actually turned into chocolate, Bruits Waves can heal Baby, and Baby can't stay in a regular-sized Vegeta anymore. Why? Well, all of these things happen somehow, for some reason. What more explanation do you need? Help support the channel: www....
A Transformation of Compassion - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 17
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Dragon Ball Dissection December returns with Super Saiyan 4! Need any more be said than that? It's the transformation even people who hate GT love. But there's still a lot to discuss in regards to its meaning, its design, and whether or not it's the so-called "Super Saiyan of Legend." Ooh, fun stuff. Help support the channel: www.patreon.com/MistareFusion Herms's Legend of the Legendary Super S...
Nobody Cares About Oob - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 16
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Nobody Cares About Oob - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 16
That Time Goku Went to Casino Hell - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 15
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That Time Goku Went to Casino Hell - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 15
Old Dragon Ball Names Confusing EVERYONE!
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Old Dragon Ball Names Confusing EVERYONE!
Farewell, Rangers! - Mighty Morphin Zyurangers (Final Episode)
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Farewell, Rangers! - Mighty Morphin Zyurangers (Final Episode)
It's Goku Time! - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 14
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It's Goku Time! - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 14
The REAL Rita - Mighty Morphin Zyurangers (Episode 28)
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The REAL Rita - Mighty Morphin Zyurangers (Episode 28)
MAGIC IS REAL! Dragon Ball Daima Announcement
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MAGIC IS REAL! Dragon Ball Daima Announcement
The Complete Saiyan/Tsufruian History - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 13
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The Complete Saiyan/Tsufruian History - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 13
KaiserNeko Joins Fusion's Weeb Support Group
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KaiserNeko Joins Fusion's Weeb Support Group
Baby, Come Back! - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 12
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Baby, Come Back! - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 12
Donkey Kong Country 3: Identity Crisis - Donkey Kong Dissection
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Donkey Kong Country 3: Identity Crisis - Donkey Kong Dissection
Baby On Board - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 11
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Baby On Board - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 11
Rangers Gone Bad! - Mighty Morphin Zyurangers (Episode 27)
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Rangers Gone Bad! - Mighty Morphin Zyurangers (Episode 27)
Three Doofuses and a Baby - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 10
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Three Doofuses and a Baby - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 10
Hyper Mega Lame - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 9
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Hyper Mega Lame - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Baby Arc Part 9

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  • @ThiccFurryBoi34
    @ThiccFurryBoi34 10 годин тому

    I just think Goku being called a vigilante makes perfect sense for him like the middle as his own independent side

  • @ajlee3824
    @ajlee3824 13 годин тому

    Love your humor and your videos

  • @KlownBaby
    @KlownBaby 15 годин тому

    I have rewatched your DragonBall Dissection several times and I don’t always agree with it, it is awesome. Thank you for taking the time to go through the series and breaking it down with so much detail.

  • @pigsarecool8760
    @pigsarecool8760 18 годин тому

    I'm currently on the cell saga and I'm starting to get bored as hell battle is lasting for 40 episodes

  • @zachzilla26
    @zachzilla26 19 годин тому

    Not to mention they actually got Lami's actress to shoot an original shot of her specifically summoning the Putty Patrol against the Power Rangers as Scorpina. That's pretty big, they had to actually recall an actor - not a costume - from Sentai to speak Power Rangers dialogue for the first time.

  • @nora-yc6fi
    @nora-yc6fi 22 години тому

    Ya know, this is 2 years late, no one's gonna see this comment... So I've got a facetious, jokey comment on what the final line should be and who should say it So imagine this, you're reading the manga as it was coming out, you get to this chapter and reach the final page Here's what you see Some random hairless cat wakes up from a nap and goes "man, that's a cool world, sure would be a shame if I went and retconned things" Anyway the final panel should be Yamcha, Tien, Puar, and Chaiotzu all sitting on a bench eating icecream together

  • @nicholassims9837
    @nicholassims9837 День тому

    So what was the bigger failure Majin Vegeta or Discord's Grogar disguise ?

  • @sailorcat
    @sailorcat День тому

    You explained it perfectly, I agree with almost all of that! At first I wasn't too happy with Minako's portrayal because she was mostly unlikable. I still think it's a pity that she's never really a part of the team. However, her character fits perfectly into this version of Sailor Moon. I understand her intentions better now, and she's really interesting. Minako kind of takes the role of the Outer Senshi (taking the mission too seriously, acting as if she's better than the others, staying away from the others....). The ending is so heartbreaking, I also tear up every time. The Shitennou are amazing! I love that they all have different goals and personalities. It's almost cute how Jadeite is so loyal to Beryl even when he dies, and almost heartbreaking how much Nephrite tries to get attention, but nobody takes him seriously. Zoisite has a cool concept and is very likeable, and Kunzite had one of the best actors of the show. What a presence this man had (rest in peace).

  • @sailorcat
    @sailorcat День тому

    Oh my god, yes, I definitely agree that there's a Venus problem. I don't really have a problem with her role, I think it's interesting that there's a Guardian who has been fighting before the others awoke. However, once she joins the team, her being Sailor V isn't really relevant anymore. After a while it doesn't matter that she has more experience or initially knew more than the others. Her drastic character change from season 2 on seems a little weird, as she was supposed to be the reliable, mature one (though I know she basically gets her Sailor V manga personality back). It seems like the writers didn't know what to do with her, so they rewrote the character. But then there's the problem that she's now very similar to Usagi. There are still some differences though. Tbh, I'm not the biggest fan of anime-Minako in the later seasons. She can be quite funny, but she also does some very stupid things and sometimes seems kind of selfish. (It's not that I dislike her though.) And yeah, it's pretty stupid that the anime didn't even try to use the "Sailor V is the princess" plot. I'll probably write another comment about live action Minako when I watched that part of the video.

  • @zachzilla26
    @zachzilla26 День тому

    My favorite part of these episodes: when Yellow throws the Skeleton's head into the fiery crevice and what they both say between the two versions. Trini: "See you later, bone head!" Boi: *"Go to hell!"*

  • @zachzilla26
    @zachzilla26 День тому

    The irony of MMPR is that it basically regresses Zyuranger back into a typical sentai series. Even though Zyuranger doesn't have the cultural significance of being the first of its kind in Japan, it still has its place in the franchise as a real game-changer during its time. Up until then, basically every season of Super Sentai was roughly the same: science fiction-based, the rangers were modern earthlings for the most part, the robots were basic vehicles, and their tech was either human or alien-made. Zyuranger upped the ante by taking all the concepts and introducing a fantasy element to it all, making the rangers prehistoric warriors and all of their robots are really gods. So it was really unique for Super Sentai. And Mighty Morphin Power Rangers? It takes Zyurangers concepts and reverts them back to how a typical sentai season would function, with the powers being alien technology, the rangers being basic people, and the robots just being dinosaur-shaped robots. Of course that's all probably a carry-over from Saban's original intention to adapt Bioman, but I just think its funny how they stripped everything that made Zyuranger different and still made a successful series because the concept as a whole was so new in America.

  • @RaineyDaysStudio
    @RaineyDaysStudio 2 дні тому

    You plan on knocking out 10?

    • @MistareFusion
      @MistareFusion 2 дні тому

      Indeed! I've definitely been slow-going with X. I've been playing it for about three years at this point, and I am close to the end. Hahaha, that's pretty pathetic of me.

  • @sunwukong5518
    @sunwukong5518 2 дні тому

    1. 23rd Budokai 2. 22nd Budokai 3. First Hunt for the DBs 4. 21st Budokai 5. Saiyajin 6. Cell 7. Red Ribbon Army 8. Frieza 9. King Piccolo 10. Majin Buu

  • @zana2587
    @zana2587 2 дні тому

    I always thought that the present-timeline Trunks' brash character was due to not only the sense of life-threatening danger but also the strong presence of Vegeta. The main thing that Future Trunks lacked. He's more Bulma by default.

  • @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546
    @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 2 дні тому

    13:01 God, I Hate *OT* Crybabies.

  • @alfredo1valenzuela
    @alfredo1valenzuela 2 дні тому

    Just cut the last half of the last episode off, and there's your realistic ending. After Sailormoon destroys the world, everything is bullshit. Of course. But come on, man: we have a precedent. We all knew -and expected- everybody to come back to life after the last battle because of the anime. But I think you are missing the point, why nobody has ever mentioned this? The core message was transmitted perfectly: emotions are a power than can be managed properly and be good, or let be and be bad. That's what's important.

    • @MistareFusion
      @MistareFusion 2 дні тому

      I'm afraid you must be misunderstanding me. I'm not asking for a realistic ending. I'm not asking for a downer ending. I *want* a happy ending. I'm asking that, if a show emotionally invests me in a conflict, it resolves it in a way that carries enough weight to match that investment. If Sailor Venus comes back to life, and the narrative doesn't seem to care or even notice that it's happened, there's no weight there. It's just a thing that happens in the background, subsumed by all the other plot elements that have to be rushed to completion. There's nothing emotionally satisfying about a major story thread that's reversed with a shrug. We can expect things to happen and still be disappointed by how they happen.

  • @skibot9974
    @skibot9974 2 дні тому

    Ya know Zack seems to have more in common with Dan than Goushi and Billy has more in common with Goushi than Dan. In hindsight they really should’ve made Billy the Black Ranger and Zack the Blue Ranger. Not only would it better match the sentai footage but would likely avoid the race issues they recived. Sure you’d still have the only Asian actor playing the yellow ranger but I think it was doing BOTH that got them heat, after all I don’t recall anybody complaining when they had an African actor play the Black Ranger in Jungle Fury

  • @AxelsAndGears
    @AxelsAndGears 2 дні тому

    There is no "legendary" Super Saiyan. Its just a myth. Like how someone can claim to be more "American" than someone else, its all about their own interpretation. There's a legend of a SSJ and it just so happens Saiyans have all these weird transformations they can do. They just *think* its a Super Saiyan because this legend exists. Goku's probably BS'ing Frieza when he gives his speech and Paragus just wants street cred by calling Broly's berserk form the *real* Legend, but none of them can know for sure.

  • @asherzerbib3461
    @asherzerbib3461 3 дні тому

    Nevermind Raditz not training his tail, if he didn’t know what Piccolo was upon meeting him when even Nappa was able to clock him almost instantly, no wonder Raditz got no respect from either of him or Vegeta aside from every other quality he demonstrated.

  • @DonWeaselYeehawEdition
    @DonWeaselYeehawEdition 3 дні тому

    Very similarly to a purple-haired Saiyan, I have come from the future! Not with warnings of an android menace, but a slight (albeit opinionated) defense for the characters' choosing to let the androids arrive, and back pedaling on that decision after fighting Number 19 and 20. I agree that Roshi's very first lesson contradicts the main cast's decision. It is selfish, and it is stupid. But that is the point, I feel. Although it was definitely grafted onto him, since fighting Vegeta Goku's saiyan heritage and desire to grow stronger has begun to override some of his decisions. Piccolo and Tenshinhan both have experience with alien threats now and may feel more qualified to deal with new enemies, which I feel could have enbrazened them to want the challenge. And Vegeta, is Vegeta 😂. But again, I agree, all of those paths of thought are stupid and selfish. But I do still believe that is the point. Because when the Androids do arrive, and Goku immediately falls to his disease and nearly dies, everything begins to fall apart. Their training amounted to nothing and without Goku they have no other defense than Vegeta whose alliance is dubious at best. And from that point, despite there efforts to backpedal, they CANT. Because of their selfish decisions, everything is now set in motion, culminating in a villain who is both the product of and is motivated by the main casts' greatest flaw: a desire to fight and seek challenge above ALL else. Thats my read of the Cell Saga, the main characters having to fix the mess they made due to their selfishness and blind desire for challenge. I know i gleamed a lot on to my reasoning, but i thought it was interesting to discuss! Love your videos and keep up the great work ❤️

  • @TVkingOmega
    @TVkingOmega 5 днів тому

    At best, AT BEST I think the Shadow Dragons arc could also be knocked out in 4-5 parts, maybe just 3 if you’re cheeky about it. Mainly because the Shadow Dragons are all basically the exact same villain up until we get to the Fire and Ice twins.

    • @MistareFusion
      @MistareFusion 5 днів тому

      To my surprise, I've actually discovered a lot of things I want to talk about.

  • @spartanq7781
    @spartanq7781 5 днів тому

    0:10

  • @spartanq7781
    @spartanq7781 5 днів тому

    I really wish the DBZ movies were more like this than endless boss rushes.

  • @spartanq7781
    @spartanq7781 5 днів тому

    0:10

  • @TheAdventuretrainerRuby
    @TheAdventuretrainerRuby 5 днів тому

    Watching this for the 20th time by now. How ya feeling Lance?

  • @zh7334
    @zh7334 5 днів тому

    GT is the worst anime I have ever watched

  • @trentonbates3114
    @trentonbates3114 5 днів тому

    Your rant in the beginning of the video about the characters doing the same thing sums up my feelings about super. It seems like every arc goku vegeta get stronger they fight the big bad they fuse or fight each other with a little bit of frieza on the side. EVERYTIME!

  • @spartanq7781
    @spartanq7781 5 днів тому

    0:00

  • @leafbladie
    @leafbladie 6 днів тому

    9:10 I get that reference now!

  • @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546
    @vykuntapufangtxpreet9546 6 днів тому

    Stop Crying. 😭😂 ua-cam.com/video/xaeTOMvf67c/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared

  • @bluetone-amv
    @bluetone-amv 6 днів тому

    This is the first and last MistareFusion video I'll watch. You are an English speaker, so stop with this "Kuririn" and "Saia" crap. You sound so snobbish. Why won't you constantly say "Sõn Gõku" then? Atleast be consistent.

    • @MistareFusion
      @MistareFusion 6 днів тому

      Well, I'm sorry that makes you so angry. I'm not sure how it makes me a snob, though, just to enjoy and share the Dragon Ball that I know. I certainly don't tell you how to be a fan. You realize that "Kuririn" is the character's name in all of the official English language manga releases and DVD subtitles, right? So why is it a problem for me to use it, the name I've known this character as for 25 years, and how I still read and hear his name said when I engage with Dragon Ball to this very day? To answer your question, I do use Son Goku when it's contextually relevant to do so. I don't use it all the time for the same reason I don't always use anybody's full name. If you're talking about the lead character in Spider-Man, do you say the full "Peter Parker" every single time? Or do you just say Peter? How is that inconsistent? The characters in Dragon Ball call its lead character all kinds of variations on his name based on their characterization and relationship to him (Son Goku, Son, Son-kun). But for the most part, he is referred to solely by his given name, not his full name. Hope that helps. Have a nice day.

    • @PrimeroJinJusuke
      @PrimeroJinJusuke 6 днів тому

      If you’re an English speaker, then why do you say the Japanese "Majin" or "Kami" instead of the English "Demon" and "God"?

    • @SSJBartSimp
      @SSJBartSimp 5 днів тому

      I am very angry about inconsequential things. >:(

  • @VICTORZITOSS
    @VICTORZITOSS 6 днів тому

    Yaaaah Let's get this video to a lot of views in the first hour so that it gets love from youtube Algorithm bless this video which i liked even before watching it because it's that good Seriously, sometimes i end up pissed off because i can't like it again after watching it, fix that youtube Lots of words lots of engagement, yadda yadda

  • @metal87power
    @metal87power 6 днів тому

    funny enough, goku kept feeding android 19 caressly even knowing they can absorb energy. as if he couldn't grasp the concept until heartattack

  • @Devimon4000
    @Devimon4000 6 днів тому

    I think what’s going on is something that DB simply never did much of, highly serialized storytelling. Sort of a soap opera structure and one that rose up in comics in the 80s and 90s before dying off for more trade story arch based structure. (Also shows up in Arthurian lore in the middle ages and other chivlaric romances were its called interlacing) Here there is often an A plot and then a B plot and maybe a C plot. But rather than the B plot always being there to comment on or support the A plot its is instead set up to become the new A plot. Then C plot might become the new B plot and so on. Its not always that clean. Sometimes the B plot is just there to comment on the A plot but the C plot will become the new A plot. Or the C plot will take over as the A plot but the B plot will keep humming along and then become the A plot after the C plot is wrapped up. Or the B plot will stay a B plot but run though several A plots. The result is where one story begins and the other ends, is messy. Example, not a super famous one but one I’m familiar with. Marv Wolfman’s run in Green Lantern in the early 80s. The first three issues are about Hal need to overcome Dr Polaris. But also before we even hit there we learn something is going wrong with Ferris Aircraft likely sabotage. A new character has something he’s hiding and in short order Hal’s love internist, Carol, has her parents kidnapped and then later she is as well. As the Dr Polaris stuff goes on Ferris Aircraft suffers even more. After Dr Polaris is defeated Hal starts looking for Carol, only to discover the new character, Bruce Gordon is Eclipso and starts to fight him. Only to get pulled into the future for two issues where he stops an invasion of Earth in two different time periods. Sent back to the present he spends two issues fighting Eclipso during which Carol’s situation is learned more about and Ferris Aircraft is bombed, and a congressman starts trying to get info on GL and who he might really be. Finally Hal is able to track down Carol and her parents and save them. But it turns out the kidnapper has a vendetta with the Ferris family that he has now passed to his sons, including the congress man. And it goes on form there. We can argue the overall story only ends when Carol is recused, since most plot lines opened up when Wolfman first joined are wrapped up by that point. But not all, the sabotage and Ferris financial issues will continue. Or we could say there was a bunch of smaller stories connected by ongoing subplots, but how are we to take the Eclipso stuff? It starts, stops for Hal’s time travel adventures and then picks up. So is it all one story? But the Eclipso stuff has no real effect on his adventures in the futures so those feel like one story that interrupts a different story. Neat story lines break down under highly serialized storytelling really. Which can be seen as messy, poorly made or just a complicated structure.

  • @KINGBADASS100
    @KINGBADASS100 6 днів тому

    It was pretty cool to hear you mention Pokemon. Would like to see you do a video on it at some point.

  • @PokeHokage
    @PokeHokage 7 днів тому

    Looking at the dates, I was born around the time this arc was coming to a close. May 26th 1997, heard you mention 27 years and had to check 😅

  • @sunwukong5518
    @sunwukong5518 7 днів тому

    We need thar DKC Returns Dissection

  • @kamozerozero
    @kamozerozero 7 днів тому

    that’s not how you say Ryūken

  • @asherzerbib3461
    @asherzerbib3461 7 днів тому

    Weird with that comparison between the Jingle Village Chief and Tien given that John Burgmeier played them both in the Funimation dub. Never noticed it before seeing this video.

  • @haloeightYT
    @haloeightYT 7 днів тому

    16:15 That is honestly so true lmao I don't think I ever thought about it but him fixing his hair really is his only character trait. But you know it's one I can appreciate. Seeing his long straight hair always getting messed up while he's flying around and fighting tickles my brain in a way animation seldom does

  • @Plasma_Fuse
    @Plasma_Fuse 7 днів тому

    I'd say it's a set up arc that commits the bare minimum to setting things up. The minimum here being cut aways to cracking dragon balls, which don't relate to the actual Super 17 plot, other than the fact they need to be used after all the chaos. That's the only thing that connects it, so I'd say it's a standalone arc with a transition to the next one. It's not like when the plot starts focusing on Baby, but the dark star dragon balls are still being collected, then they get brought back to Dende, then used by Baby, then the arc ends with everyone evacuating earth as a consequence. The dragon balls in that case are very relevant in the middle of the story and not totally in the background. Let's say the dragon balls started cracking and then suddenly hell opens up as a result of that, and maybe during all the action of this arc we cut to the dragon balls getting gathered and characters question what's happening. Maybe Bulma's running tests on them or something. If at least something was being done with them like that, then I'd find it much more believable as the start of the Shadow Dragon Saga. Also unrelated to all that, I'm glad Android 18 gets to do at least SOMETHING in the arc about her brother. Since it's GT I had zero faith she'd even show up at all lol...

    • @MistareFusion
      @MistareFusion 7 днів тому

      That's the thing, though. You say that "if the Dragon Balls started cracking and then suddenly hell opens up as a result of that," but that is what the show says happens. That's the whole basis for the argument that it's one arc. No, it doesn't focus on it the way you suggest. Hell, it's not even stated until the last episode, but that connection is there.

    • @Plasma_Fuse
      @Plasma_Fuse 7 днів тому

      ​@@MistareFusion My point is the fact that it's retconned in at the end makes the connection feel like it's dangling by a thread. With Freeza and the Saiyan arc, the arcs have different goals but are still intertwined due to the relation between Freeza and the Saiyan race, so I could see both sides of the argument of whether or not that's one arc. Shenron saying hell opened up due to the dragon balls feels like the equivalent of Freeza having never heard of Saiyans at all, but then King Cold randomly revealing that Freeza did in fact destroy planet Vegeta. Sure the dragon balls opening hell up technically adds a connection to recontextualize things, but it's a pretty late half baked one that doesn't really add much to what's already happened.

    • @MistareFusion
      @MistareFusion 7 днів тому

      I definitely agree it feels half-baked. I just don't know if it feeling half-baked is enough for me to make the strong determination that they don't belong together. It was just enough to allow me to make a lukewarm decision that they don't belong together.

  • @InvaderWeezle
    @InvaderWeezle 7 днів тому

    Bringing up Calvin and Hobbes made me realize that Calvin and Hobbes and Dragon Ball ran for mostly the same period of time give or take a few months

  • @aikou2886
    @aikou2886 7 днів тому

    3:39 Because he's an adult. He'd come up with random strategies because it was that, just a random thought that he came up with. That's also partially why most adults just don't have any sense of curiosity anymore. They are less likely to think outside the box.

    • @MistareFusion
      @MistareFusion 7 днів тому

      I'm pretty sure Goku was an adult when he fought Freeza. I don't deny Goku was flightier and more spontaneous as a child, but he was never this uncreative. Also... Goku *is* a child here! =P